================================================ Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] Here's a question From: "Sandy Carter" To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" Date: Fri 5 Jul 2002 10:34:57 -0500 ================================================ With Wind-Up, I worry particularly about 12Stones. I wonder if WU depends too much on the street teams, thinking that Creed reached their level of success by gathering fans on a grass roots level? From what I understand, Creed did some smart touring in the beginning. Unfortunately, the powers that be don't seem to realize that Creed's success formula might actually benefit fledgling bands. In my opinion, 12Stones is an example of one of their potentially successful band. The talent is there, especially with Eric, but there's some work to be done. Is it just me, or does Paul need some pointers about stage presence? And their video is unspeakably awful. I have not heard about some of the other bands mentioned, like American Pearl. And Scott, if it weren't for you, I would never have discovered 12Stones. Get the man a paycheck! Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "]\\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[" To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 1:41 AM Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] Here's a question > I feel real sorry for the guys in Seether and 12 Stones. They just got > signed, and are already being overshadowed. 12 Stones touring with Creed... > instead of being a headlining act, they're opening for the record company > Gods... and Seether on the opening stage for Ozzy. At the very least, if > Wind-Up goes down, Seether has a base in South Africa, and can just go back > to being Saron Gas. > This could be an interesting year... since Creed claims a third CD sometime > shortly following the tour (I'm guessing they're going to be writing on the > road or something... unless this is the fabled rarities and B-sides > album)... we might see a fall soon. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee Reed" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 11:21 PM > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] Here's a question > > > > ever since they announced that blue collar was releasing virgos' album, > > that's been my thought, that creed was going to tell windup to fuck off > once > > their contract was up(and if i'm not mistaken, i think we're talking just > > one more album)...and i agree, that'll be the beginning of the end for > > windup...for exactly the reason we've stated, that they put all their > > marbles in the creed bag...if that actually happens, i would hope that > > creed/blue collar will pick the ball up and run with those bands like ap > and > > f11, since they are supposedly friends with all of them...and maybe, just > > maybe, the bands will end up getting the support they need to break out... > > > > > > >From: ]\\\\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[ > > >Reply-To: The New Improved Less Lame List > > >To: "The New Improved Less Lame List" > > >Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] Here's a question > > >Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:17:08 -0700 > > > > > >The one problem that they might still run into is not a major record > > >company > > >absorbing them, but Blue Collar Records. > > >Creed, I'm sure, are almost done fulfilling their contractual > > >obligations... > > >and the band recently rehashed their own label, right? Think they'll > > >re-sign with Wind-up, or take their ball and go home? > > >If Wind-Up looses Creed, they're all lost... and a lot of truly > magnificent > > >bands will be caught under the rubble. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, > visit: > > http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm > > > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: > http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm > To unsubscribe or change your preferences for the Creed-Discuss list, visit: http://www.debbir.com/lists/Creed-discuss.htm